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Post by Kapitan on Nov 21, 2019 21:29:02 GMT
Jeff Foskett apparently has been receiving treatment for a type of thyroid cancer, which is damaging his voice. That explains why he hasn't been used primarily as falsetto singer with M&B's band.
He's also got a new (apparently covers) album.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 22, 2019 0:39:14 GMT
Well, that is unfortunate news. Let's hope and pray that Jeff is fully cured of the thyroid cancer. Did I interpret the article correctly where it says "that the surgeries and treatments have robbed him of one of his vocal cords and, essentially the versatile voice with the soaring upper register", that Jeff will not recover his voice and that it is permanent condition? The article also says, "Foskett considers his future prospects to be 'a good question'". That leaves the door open a little bit. Doesn't it?
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 22, 2019 5:57:03 GMT
Very sad news. Unlike a lot of people on a certain other board, I have always liked Jeff's voice - love it.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 22, 2019 12:35:02 GMT
Very sad news. Unlike a lot of people on a certain other board, I have always liked Jeff's voice - love it. Jeff was always my favorite of the "Brian substitute vocalist" on stage and on record. However, one of my biggest complaints with That's Why God Made The Radio is that Jeff's voice is too prevalent. Jeff's high vocals are all over the place, especially on key parts of songs. I still wish - and believe - that with enough takes and some (cough) technological help, Brian could've pulled those high vocals off.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 22, 2019 12:45:51 GMT
I liked Jeff's voice, though I did think it was getting worse over the years and prefer either Matt or Brian E now. That said, even if I thought he had the worst voice in the world, his health issues would be a shame.
As for being too prominent on TWGMTR, that's the Beach Boys sound, prominent falsetto vocals. I think the results of putting Brian's voice in that role (with the technological help that would absolutely be required, not just to tune it but pitch shift it), I think that would have been a pretty awkward sound, really clearly artificial. If "Robo Al" is a complaint, I think that would have been far, far worse.
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Post by bellbottoms on Nov 22, 2019 13:16:36 GMT
I love Jeff’s falsetto vocals and I’m very sorry to hear he is going through this, it must be awful for him.
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2019 13:54:49 GMT
Very sad news. Unlike a lot of people on a certain other board, I have always liked Jeff's voice - love it. Yeah, they used to like him too, until 2015. But, Jeff is probably my favorite of the non BB vocalists in concert. I wish him nothing but the best.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 22, 2019 13:58:29 GMT
As for being too prominent on TWGMTR, that's the Beach Boys sound, prominent falsetto vocals. I think the results of putting Brian's voice in that role (with the technological help that would absolutely be required, not just to tune it but pitch shift it), I think that would have been a pretty awkward sound, really clearly artificial. If "Robo Al" is a complaint, I think that would have been far, far worse.
You and I have discussed - and disagreed - on this subject before. I just wanted to add that I was really surprised and kind of caught off guard by Jeff's prominent vocals on TWGMTR, mainly because of Brian's much improved and frankly very good vocal work on the Gershwin and Disney albums, especially with his higher register voice. And, five years AFTER TWGMTR, Brian continued his excellent high vocal work on No Pier Pressure, IMO of course. I wonder if they rushed the recording of TWGMTR to the extent that they didn't want to take the necessary time and care that an older Brian required.
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2019 14:01:58 GMT
As for being too prominent on TWGMTR, that's the Beach Boys sound, prominent falsetto vocals. I think the results of putting Brian's voice in that role (with the technological help that would absolutely be required, not just to tune it but pitch shift it), I think that would have been a pretty awkward sound, really clearly artificial. If "Robo Al" is a complaint, I think that would have been far, far worse.
You and I have discussed - and disagreed - on this subject before. I just wanted to add that I was really surprised and kind of caught off guard by Jeff's prominent vocals on TWGMTR, mainly because of Brian's much improved and frankly very good vocal work on the Gershwin and Disney albums, especially with his higher register voice. And, five years AFTER TWGMTR, Brian continued his excellent high vocal work on No Pier Pressure, IMO of course. I wonder if they rushed the recording of TWGMTR to the extent that they didn't want to take the necessary time and care that an older Brian required. The presence of Jeff doesn't bother me on TWGMTR nearly as much as the lack of harmonies with the actual surviving BBs. Case in point, the vocal intro to PCH. There are very well monents like that on the album.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 22, 2019 14:09:51 GMT
You and I have discussed - and disagreed - on this subject before. I just wanted to add that I was really surprised and kind of caught off guard by Jeff's prominent vocals on TWGMTR, mainly because of Brian's much improved and frankly very good vocal work on the Gershwin and Disney albums, especially with his higher register voice. And, five years AFTER TWGMTR, Brian continued his excellent high vocal work on No Pier Pressure, IMO of course. I wonder if they rushed the recording of TWGMTR to the extent that they didn't want to take the necessary time and care that an older Brian required. The presence of Jeff doesn't bother me on TWGMTR nearly as much as the lack of harmonies with the actual surviving BBs. Case in point, the vocal intro to PCH. There are very well monents like that on the album. Agree on that, too. I think Joe Thomas did a good job producing the album, but that - the lack of a real Beach Boys' sound in some places - is something that could've been improved.
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2019 14:12:47 GMT
The presence of Jeff doesn't bother me on TWGMTR nearly as much as the lack of harmonies with the actual surviving BBs. Case in point, the vocal intro to PCH. There are very well monents like that on the album. Agree on that, too. I think Joe Thomas did a good job producing the album, but that - the lack of a real Beach Boys' sound in some places - is something that could've been improved. The middle of the album in particular, like Bill and Sue, Shelter, and Strange World, all sound like Brian solo songs to me. I really think had they taken more time on the album, it could've sounded more band oriented.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 22, 2019 14:18:32 GMT
Agree on that, too. I think Joe Thomas did a good job producing the album, but that - the lack of a real Beach Boys' sound in some places - is something that could've been improved. The middle of the album in particular, like Bill and Sue, Shelter, and Strange World, all sound like Brian solo songs to me. I'm with you guys on that. It is a Brian-and-Jeff album feat. Al with occasionally plugged-in Mike. So for me it isn't too much Jeff, but too little group harmonies. I don't think any of them can sing worth a damn in falsetto ranges, but they could have handled something in their contemporary ranges, if given the chance.
My guess is that it was a scheduling thing. It was faster to just have Jeff do everything (except what Brian did) and rather than teach everyone a part on everything, they'd just give them this or that relatively prominent moment so you'd remember it was a Beach Boys album.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 22, 2019 14:22:03 GMT
The middle of the album in particular, like Bill and Sue, Shelter, and Strange World, all sound like Brian solo songs to me. I'm with you guys on that. It is a Brian-and-Jeff album feat. Al with occasionally plugged-in Mike. So for me it isn't too much Jeff, but too little group harmonies. I don't think any of them can sing worth a damn in falsetto ranges, but they could have handled something in their contemporary ranges, if given the chance.
My guess is that it was a scheduling thing. It was faster to just have Jeff do everything (except what Brian did) and rather than teach everyone a part on everything, they'd just give them this or that relatively prominent moment so you'd remember it was a Beach Boys album.
Yep.
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2019 14:24:32 GMT
It's really a pity because the songs are strong, and for the first BB album in 20 years, and most likely the final BB album, it would've been nice to hear....you know...The Beach Boys.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 23, 2019 5:02:35 GMT
My favorite Foskett vocal moment is on a song by America, Overwhelming World Suite. I swear he was channeling Carl on that. I always enjoyed when he sang Warmth of the Sun during BB's shows.
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