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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 6, 2019 0:49:22 GMT
Top 10 Zeppelin Songs That Don't Get a Whole Lotta Love...
10. Carouselambra
9. Thank You 8. Ramble On
7. Good Times, Bad Times
6. Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) 5. The Rain Song 4. Hots On For Nowhere
3. What Is And What Should Never Be 2. Tangerine 1. Ten Years Gone
I'm far from a knowledgeable Led Zep fan, but I thought "Ramble On", "Good Times, Bad Times", "The Rain Song", and "Tangerine" were fan favorites. I like 'em anyway. I saw a Led Zeppelin tribute band, Unledded, last year and I'm pretty sure they played those four songs, maybe even "Thank You".
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 6, 2019 0:51:40 GMT
Top 10 Favorite Paul McCartney Albums 01. Ram (1971) 02. Band On The Run (1973)
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Post by B.E. on May 6, 2019 0:56:27 GMT
Top 10 Favorite Paul McCartney Albums 01. Ram (1971) 02. Band On The Run (1973) Guess I'm just not a bluebird, a bluebird, a bluebird
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Post by kds on May 6, 2019 2:46:02 GMT
Top 10 Zeppelin Songs That Don't Get a Whole Lotta Love...
10. Carouselambra
9. Thank You 8. Ramble On
7. Good Times, Bad Times
6. Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) 5. The Rain Song 4. Hots On For Nowhere
3. What Is And What Should Never Be 2. Tangerine 1. Ten Years Gone
Good list, but I'd include Down By the Seaside
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Post by Kapitan on May 6, 2019 12:10:12 GMT
SJS - they may be fan favorites (though I’m not really knowledgeable about zep fans), but I meant broad acclaim. Classic rock radio, casual fans etc.
KDS - I nearly did include Down By The Seaside!
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Post by Kapitan on May 8, 2019 18:28:00 GMT
Top 10 Hard Rock Covers They might not be the best covers out there, but doggone it, I liked them. That’s the “top” criteria here: a bunch of covers in hard rock music—mostly recorded in the ‘80s, but spanning from the ‘70s through the ‘90s—that I like or liked. 10. Radar Love, White Lion (Golden Earring) 9. Your Mama Don’t Dance, Poison (Loggins & Messina) 8. Once Bitten, Twice Shy, Great White (Ian Hunter) 7. Any Way You Want It, KISS (Dave Clark 5) 6. Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door, Guns n Roses (Bob Dylan) 5. Here I Go Again, Whitesnake (Whitesnake) 4. Just a Gigolo, David Lee Roth (Irving Caesar and Leonello Casucci) 3. Back in the New York Groove, Ace Frehley (Russ Ballard/Hello) 2. Cum On Feel the Noize, Quiet Riot (Slade) 1. You Really Got Me, Van Halen (The Kinks)
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Post by kds on May 8, 2019 19:17:05 GMT
Top Ten 80s Hard Rock Bands Who Are NOT "Hair Metal"
"Hair Metal" tends to be a catch all term for any hard rock band that was big in the 1980s, but it really doesn't apply to most bands it tends to be applied to. Bands like Motley Crue, Poison, and Bon Jovi are 80s glam rock (which cynics and elitists have labelled "hair metal"). But, here are ten bands that often get lumped into that group who don't belong
10. KIX - There's a running theme. Have a hit with a power ballad, and you're a "hair metal" band. Not the case in many cases, like this raunchy rock band from my home state of Maryland.
9. Extreme - Sticking with East Coast bands, Boston's Extreme released three solid albums that included a little shred, a little hard rock, and even a bit of funk. But, thanks to the massively popular acoustic ballad "More Than Words," they get the "hair" brand.
8. Skid Row - Anyone who only knows them for "I Remember You" needs to listen to their first three albums to see this is a full on heavy metal band.
7. Great White - Zeppelin-esque at times, very blues based.
6. Tesla - Another straight forward hard rock band that could've come from the 70s.
5. Scorpions - A metal band that dates back to the early 70s. But, since they didn't make their mark in the US until the 80s, they're lumped into the hair.
4. Def Leppard - Slick pop based rock songs and a stripper anthem may scream 1980s, but not a hair band.
3. Y & T - Due to their hit "Summertime Girls," they often get thought of as 80s hair metal one hit wonders.
2. Whitesnake - Before their Geffen / John Kalodner relaunch in 1987, they were a Purple - esque band for nearly a decade.
1. Guns N Roses - It's ludicrous, as GNR were basically the anti "hair metal" band, but in recent years, I've heard the band referred to as such.
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Post by Kapitan on May 8, 2019 19:53:58 GMT
I sympathize with you, KDS, but only to a certain extent. I don’t like the term either, but less because of what it is than what it means. What it is, is more or less accurate: for a decade or so, a lot of hard rock and heavy metal bands did focus disproportionately (in my opinion, anyway) on their look, including their teased, highlighted, feathered, or otherwise highly styled hair. And frankly I think a lot of the bands you just tried to remove from the category actually fit if we were going on hair alone. Some of the GnR photos are in hindsight hilarious because while at the time they were marketing themselves as a raw, rough-and-tumble antidote to “hair metal,” some of them (especially Axl) fit right in as often as not. Def Leppard, Extreme, Whitesnake, Skid Row, and several of the others, too. The issue for me is that it’s used as a dismissive perjorative that basically ignores the music itself. And that’s where I think you’re totally right. It is used to mean that a band only came to Hollywood with an image in mind, spent its energy on its hairstyles, couldn’t actually play, and didn’t much want to play. They were in it for cocaine and groupies, not to write or play songs. As you correctly say, the musical breadth of “hair metal” bands is huge, going from pretty straightforward rock and roll to serious metal, from pop anthems to neo-psychedelia. These aren’t all just cookie cutter, made for MTV bands. There were some of those bands (Pretty Boy Floyd comes to mind), but every successful genre of music has always had copycats who were basically in it for the girls. (And a good many “serious” musicians have admitted they were more or less in it from the girls to begin with anyway…) Whether it was leather-and-jeans rock and rollers, mop tops, dopey hippie phoneys, Tolkien-spouting Zep wannabes, faux punks, hair-sprayed pretty boys, or yarling grungers, there has always been and will always be “hair metal.” (Especially as long as there are simultaneously pretentious pricks who have nominated themselves the arbiters of taste and authenticity!)
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 8, 2019 22:01:32 GMT
10 Favorite Lou Reed Songs
1. Sweet Jane (1995 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame version w/ Soul Asylum) 2. Perfect Day 3. Sad Song 4. Walk On The Wild Side (Live In Italy version) 5. Oh Jim (Lou Reed Live version) 6. Satellite Of Love 7. Dirty Blvd. 8. Into The Divine (Perfect Night version) 9. Vicious 10. Sunday Morning (Animal Serenade version)
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Post by Kapitan on May 8, 2019 22:53:17 GMT
Here is something on Lou Reed songs I posted at the EH board. The intention was to showcase that Reed wasn't just some protopunk hipster. It doesn't rank a top 10 (or quite list a top 10 for that matter), but is a collection of his tunes I love. I think I kept this to the VU versions of songs. There are quite a few solo ones I'd put in there too if I gave it some thought.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 9, 2019 0:15:17 GMT
Great playlist^
I love "Pale Blue Eyes", and I think I prefer the 1969: The Velvet Underground Live version. Even though the recording isn't nearly as clear, I like the vocal harmony better and I think Lou sings it with more attitude. My favorite part is "and the fact that you are married...aw...that only, aw that only proves that you're my best friend". Cracks me up.
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Post by kds on May 9, 2019 12:35:58 GMT
I sympathize with you, KDS, but only to a certain extent. I don’t like the term either, but less because of what it is than what it means. What it is, is more or less accurate: for a decade or so, a lot of hard rock and heavy metal bands did focus disproportionately (in my opinion, anyway) on their look, including their teased, highlighted, feathered, or otherwise highly styled hair. And frankly I think a lot of the bands you just tried to remove from the category actually fit if we were going on hair alone. Some of the GnR photos are in hindsight hilarious because while at the time they were marketing themselves as a raw, rough-and-tumble antidote to “hair metal,” some of them (especially Axl) fit right in as often as not. Def Leppard, Extreme, Whitesnake, Skid Row, and several of the others, too. The issue for me is that it’s used as a dismissive perjorative that basically ignores the music itself. And that’s where I think you’re totally right. It is used to mean that a band only came to Hollywood with an image in mind, spent its energy on its hairstyles, couldn’t actually play, and didn’t much want to play. They were in it for cocaine and groupies, not to write or play songs. As you correctly say, the musical breadth of “hair metal” bands is huge, going from pretty straightforward rock and roll to serious metal, from pop anthems to neo-psychedelia. These aren’t all just cookie cutter, made for MTV bands. There were some of those bands (Pretty Boy Floyd comes to mind), but every successful genre of music has always had copycats who were basically in it for the girls. (And a good many “serious” musicians have admitted they were more or less in it from the girls to begin with anyway…) Whether it was leather-and-jeans rock and rollers, mop tops, dopey hippie phoneys, Tolkien-spouting Zep wannabes, faux punks, hair-sprayed pretty boys, or yarling grungers, there has always been and will always be “hair metal.” (Especially as long as there are simultaneously pretentious pricks who have nominated themselves the arbiters of taste and authenticity!) Yeah, I totally agree. I usually don't get hung up on labels, but it used to grind my gears a few years ago when I was full of a little more pi$$ and vinegar when some hip 90s cat who thought that "Say It Ain't So" by Weezer was a great rock song could scoff at the tavern when I'd play something like Skid Row on the jukebox, loudly declaring over his hip "grampa" beer "Who played this hair band crap?"
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 9, 2019 13:03:32 GMT
Top 10 Hard Rock Covers 2. Cum On Feel the Noize, Quiet Riot (Slade) I remember having very mixed feelings about this one. Quiet Riot also covered Slade's "Mama Weer All Crazee Now". Of course I was happy that Slade was getting some mention and recognition, but at the same time I was jealous that it wasn't Slade having their video played on MTV every hour. I can't tell you how many people I approached and said, "You know that Quiet Riot song, "Cum On Feel The Noize", well that was originally done by this group called Slade, and they had all of these hits. You oughta hear THEM!"
And then, surprisingly, a few years later, Slade had a couple of MTV hits with "Run Runaway" and "My Oh My". While they were both excellent songs, they weren't quite as great as Slade's earlier hits. But I was still happy that they were getting some exposure, and I guess what goes around comes around, meaning thank you to Quiet Riot.
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Post by Kapitan on May 9, 2019 13:09:57 GMT
That’s how I usually look at covers of songs I like that become big hits. Sure, some are atrocious on their own merits. (Seems like the Britneyesque pop artists and nu metal bands made a real habit of this in the early 00s.) But at least you can use them as gateways to deserving artists.
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Post by kds on May 9, 2019 13:16:11 GMT
That’s how I usually look at covers of songs I like that become big hits. Sure, some are atrocious on their own merits. (Seems like the Britneyesque pop artists and nu metal bands made a real habit of this in the early 00s.) But at least you can use them as gateways to deserving artists. Some nu metal / metal artists are still doing it in the 2010s Five Finger Death Punch did an absolutely atrocious version of Bad Company's Bad Company Disturbed, whose covers I actually mostly like, did an over dramatic, nails on chalkboard version of Sound of Silence. While I admit I'm not the biggest Slade fan in the world, I actually prefer the Quiet Riot version of Noize (although oddly enough, I prefer the Slade version of Crazee).
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